Are you exhausted from “chasing scripts,” or giving clients more audio homework that barely scratches the surface?
Have you noticed your clients keep coming back—because talk therapy, CBT, or even advanced tools only manage symptoms, not the root?
If you’re ready to facilitate real breakthroughs, even for “complex” clients, without ever dreading a session or over-preparing…
You’re in the right place.
Conversational Hypnosis for Certified Hypnotists, NLPers, Counselors & Therapists Who Want Lasting Results Without Scripts or Timeline Regression
Conversational Hypnosis for Certified Hypnotists, NLPers, Counselors & Therapists Who Want Lasting Results Without Scripts or Timeline Regression
Struggling to Create Change That Sticks?
Struggling to Create Change That Sticks?
She said, "my clients have so much past trauma. This is perfect because I don't want to have them relive the past to neutralize the root cause." ~Hannah Mae of MaebMindful
She said, "my clients have so much past trauma. This is perfect because I don't want to have them relive the past to neutralize the root cause." ~Hannah Mae of MaebMindful
What Makes Conversational Hypnosis Different?
What Makes Conversational Hypnosis Different?
Forget everything you’ve learned about lengthy inductions, trance rituals, or step-by-step protocols. This is advanced-level, in-the-moment transformation that:
- Instantly spots the paradox or subconscious loop running the problem
- Works for clients who overthink, resist, or “don’t fit the script”
- Delivers results—sometimes in a single session—without ever using regression
If you've every thought:
“Talk therapy and CBT only scratch the surface. I want to go deeper.”
“I’m sick of giving clients homework or audio tracks they don’t use.”
“Scripts don’t work when the client’s issue isn’t what they expect.”
“Regression feels unsafe or too intense for my clients’ trauma.”
Inside the portal you get immediate access to past trainings when completing registration.
Why Other Methods Fall Short
Why Other Methods Fall Short
Most trainings leave you…
- Guessing what to do when a client surprises you
- Relying on scripts, checklists, or pre-planned techniques that don’t fit the moment
- Feeling like you’re just “managing” issues instead of creating breakthroughs
With Masters Level 1, you’ll learn to…
- Guide any session with no prep or script
- Facilitate deep, rapid change for clients who “overthink” or have complex trauma
- Experience the freedom of knowing you can’t say the “wrong” thing
What’s Inside Masters Level 1?
What’s Inside Masters Level 1?
Get Immediate Access
Get Immediate Access
- 3-Day Live Training (Zoom): Practice hands-on, see and participate in real demos (not just roleplay), and get instant feedback
- 40+ Hours On-Demand Library: Instant access to immersive training, replay breakdowns, and evolving content
- Lifetime VIP Ticket: Join every future live round at no additional cost—forever
- Bonus Private Facebook Community: Practice, connect, and grow with serious, certified professionals.
Why I Created
Elite Hypno Masters Level 1™
Why I Created
Elite Hypno Masters Level 1™
Elite Hypno Masters Level 1™
Midnight, New Years Eve/Day 2016/17, on the express train to mental and emotional burn out.
When I became a hypnotist, I was still practicing full-time as a nurse anesthetist. I didn’t quit my job—I built this alongside it, as my own “freedom hustle.”
At first, the anesthesiologists and surgeons I worked with every day doubted hypnosis.
But I brought the neuroscience. The case studies. The process. Over time, they saw what I did: that this work changes lives.
Once I focused my work on personal transformation I realized there were clients who I did not want to take through directed root cause work because we CAN unravel problems simply focusing on the thought and the feeling.
This training was built for people like you—people who want to help others, do it ethically and with integrity.
You don’t need another degree. You just need to know how to read the subconscious and shift it..
And that’s exactly what you’ll find inside Elite Hypno Masters Level 1™.
At first, the anesthesiologists and surgeons I worked with every day doubted hypnosis.
But I brought the neuroscience. The case studies. The process. Over time, they saw what I did: that this work changes lives.
Once I focused my work on personal transformation I realized there were clients who I did not want to take through directed root cause work because we CAN unravel problems simply focusing on the thought and the feeling.
This training was built for people like you—people who want to help others, do it ethically and with integrity.
You don’t need another degree. You just need to know how to read the subconscious and shift it..
And that’s exactly what you’ll find inside Elite Hypno Masters Level 1™.
How Fast Does This Work?
How Fast Does This Work?
Conversational techniques are so rapid, you might “accidentally” solve problems on a consult call.
- Some students have replaced three regression sessions with one conversational session
- Clients report life-long results after a single breakthrough
- Works even if your client doesn’t know the session has “started”
"What you did is like magic. It's not magic, it's like air, just there." Jenny
"I almost cancelled our call and didn't pay the invoice. I don't know what you said during the consult but my urge to go to the store and by candy every night is just gone. That's worth the $2500." C.G.
"I had to check my pulse and make sure I wasn't dead! I got in my car and went out ALONE today. I've had CBT, EMDR, multiple therapise, IFS, and cranio-sacral therapy. I'm glad my therapist recommended you." V.C.
Compare: 5-PATH® vs. Masters Level 1
Compare: 5-PATH® vs. Masters Level 1
Why I Teach Both: The Power of Structure & Artistry
Why I Teach Both: The Power of Structure & Artistry
I’m Penny, board-certified hypnotist and trainer.
My signature Elite Hypno Pro training includes provides 5-PATH® certification which gives practitioners a foundation in safe, ethical, repeatable hypnosis.
But mastery requires more than just a script or formula. And those achieving mastery realize there are clients that directed sessions create more resistance.
That’s why I created Elite Hypno Masters Level 1—to give certified and licensed professionals the advanced tools to:
- Walk into a session unprepared and still create deep subconscious change
- Confidently help “stuck” or trauma-sensitive clients without regression
- Break free from “performance pressure” and rigid methods
Masters Level 1 gives you flexibility that drops resistance and unlocks lasting change.
Elite Hypno Pro™
with 5-PATH certification
Elite Hypno Pro™
with 5-PATH certification
with 5-PATH certification
✔️ Formal, step-by-step, application-only
✔️ Beginners, certification seekers
✔️ Foundational and advanced skills, ethical safety
✔️Consistent, repeatable results ✔️A directed approach to emotional release and everything you need to create impactful hypnosis audios, lead groups and retreats.
3 industry certifications.
✔️ Formal, step-by-step, application-only
✔️ Beginners, certification seekers
✔️ Foundational and advanced skills, ethical safety
✔️Consistent, repeatable results
✔️ Beginners, certification seekers
✔️ Foundational and advanced skills, ethical safety
✔️Consistent, repeatable results
✔️A directed approach to emotional release and everything you need to create impactful hypnosis audios, lead groups and retreats.
3 industry certifications.
3 industry certifications.
Elite Hypno Masters™
Level 1
Elite Hypno Masters™
Level 1
Level 1
✔️ Advanced, flexible, direct buy
✔️ Certified hypnotists, experienced pros
✔️ Fast breakthroughs, complex cases, trauma-aware
✔️Real-time mastery, deeper change, no scripts
✔️Immersive training
No certification. Only mastery.
✔️ Advanced, flexible, direct buy
✔️ Certified hypnotists, experienced pros
✔️ Fast breakthroughs, complex cases, trauma-aware
✔️Real-time mastery, deeper change, no scripts
✔️Immersive training
No certification. Only mastery.
✔️ Certified hypnotists, experienced pros
✔️ Fast breakthroughs, complex cases, trauma-aware
✔️Real-time mastery, deeper change, no scripts
✔️Immersive training
No certification. Only mastery.
Who This Is For
Who This Is For
✔️ Certified Hypnotists, NLPers, Counselors, and Therapists
✔️ Professionals who want to ditch scripts, get lasting results, and do more than stir up old feelings.
✔️ NOT for beginners, the curious, or those seeking certification (see my Elite Hypno Pro program for that)
✔️ Certified Hypnotists, NLPers, Counselors, and Therapists
✔️ Professionals who want to ditch scripts, get lasting results, and do more than stir up old feelings.
✔️ NOT for beginners, the curious, or those seeking certification (see my Elite Hypno Pro program for that)
✔️ Professionals who want to ditch scripts, get lasting results, and do more than stir up old feelings.
✔️ NOT for beginners, the curious, or those seeking certification (see my Elite Hypno Pro program for that)
What to Expect: Experiential, No-Fluff Training
What to Expect: Experiential, No-Fluff Training
✔️ No scripts, workbooks, or rote memorization
✔️ 100% experiential: practice as a “client” or “facilitator”
✔️ Lifetime VIP access to every future session and replay
✔️ Bonus Facebook community for support, practice, and feedback
✔️ No scripts, workbooks, or rote memorization
✔️ 100% experiential: practice as a “client” or “facilitator”
✔️ Lifetime VIP access to every future session and replay
✔️ Bonus Facebook community for support, practice, and feedback
✔️ 100% experiential: practice as a “client” or “facilitator”
✔️ Lifetime VIP access to every future session and replay
✔️ Bonus Facebook community for support, practice, and feedback
They are waiting for you to say yes.
They are waiting for you to say yes.
Investment & Bonuses:
$1997 Pay-In-Full or 6 payments of $333- Join today and attend every future Masters Level 1 live at no extra cost
- Lifetime* access to all session replays
- Ongoing Facebook community, practice partners, and more
Masters Level 1 trainings in 2026:- April 10-12, 2026
- September 16-18, 2026
Investment & Bonuses:
$1997 Pay-In-Full or 6 payments of $333
$1997 Pay-In-Full or 6 payments of $333
- Join today and attend every future Masters Level 1 live at no extra cost
- Lifetime* access to all session replays
- Ongoing Facebook community, practice partners, and more
Masters Level 1 trainings in 2026:
- April 10-12, 2026
- September 16-18, 2026
You've probably asked yourself...is the timing right?
You've probably asked yourself...is the timing right?
The world is waking up to subconscious transformation.
Recent market data shows the hypnosis industry is projected to grow by 32% annually, adding over $100 billion in global market share by 2032.
Most of that growth is expected to come from healthcare-adjacent referrals—for stress, sleep, gut-brain issues, chronic pain, and the rising demand for mental and emotional wellness support.
But here’s the truth: Not every hypnotist will be taken seriously.
When I became a hypnotist, I was still practicing full-time as a nurse anesthetist. I did hypnosis alongside my medical career—as my own freedom hustle—and had to earn the trust of the surgeons, anesthesiologists, and GI specialists I worked with daily.
Despite knowing my credentials, they still doubted hypnosis.
So I brought the research. I brought the neuroscience.
And over time, I built a practice that not only helped people—but earned respect across medical circles.
Elite Hypno Masters is designed to take your hypnosis or therapy practice to a level that gets undeniable results because you are doing this to make a difference. Imagine how many more people you can help when you can get those results faster.
Recent market data shows the hypnosis industry is projected to grow by 32% annually, adding over $100 billion in global market share by 2032.
Most of that growth is expected to come from healthcare-adjacent referrals—for stress, sleep, gut-brain issues, chronic pain, and the rising demand for mental and emotional wellness support.
But here’s the truth: Not every hypnotist will be taken seriously.
When I became a hypnotist, I was still practicing full-time as a nurse anesthetist. I did hypnosis alongside my medical career—as my own freedom hustle—and had to earn the trust of the surgeons, anesthesiologists, and GI specialists I worked with daily.
Despite knowing my credentials, they still doubted hypnosis.
So I brought the research. I brought the neuroscience.
And over time, I built a practice that not only helped people—but earned respect across medical circles.
Elite Hypno Masters is designed to take your hypnosis or therapy practice to a level that gets undeniable results because you are doing this to make a difference. Imagine how many more people you can help when you can get those results faster.
Frequently Asked Questions
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Do I need a college degree to join Masters Level 1?
A: No, but we only train certified hypnotists, NLP practitioners and licensed mentalhealth professionals in Elite Hypno Masters. Professional hypnotists work with everyday people on everyday challenges, including:
✔ Stress & anxiety management
✔ Smoking cessation & weight loss
✔ Confidence, motivation, & mindset blocks
✔ Fears, nervous habits, & sleep improvement
✔ Emotional release of anger, shame and guilt
With a professional referral, you can also work with clients dealing with diagnosed conditions such as:
✔ Chronic pain & headaches
✔ PTSD & anxiety disorders
✔ Vaginismus & gut health issues
Since stress impacts nearly every physical condition, even focusing solely on relaxation and stress reduction can significantly improve a client’s quality of life.
Q: How do I know this will actually work for me?
A: If you know how to talk to someone and listen with presence, this will work for you. This full immersion class will allow you to learn through experience. As with anything, practice fine tunes what your learn. We encourage practice sessions with other students who are in the Facebook group on light, simple issues.
Q: What's the difference between your certification and conversational hypnosis.?
A: The Elite Hypno Pro™ training program provides National Guild of Hypnotist and 5-PATH certification along with The Identity Matrix method certification which is my proprietary process for creating powerful individualized transformation without spending months doing hundreds of free sessions and studying endless hours.
Q: Can I take Elite Hypnos Masters Level 1 if I am a certified coach?
A: In EHM Level 1 there is NO classroom lessons, manuals, or guides. It is full immersion. It is expected that all students have hypnosis, NLP or mental health training. All students assume the risk of the clients they choose to take on and understanding their scope of practice.
Q: Will I need more training after this course?
A: You’ll be well on your way to helping clients untangle the 'knots' of belief that keep them stuck when you finish level 1. Your results will depend on how much time you dedicate to practice, using your VIP ticket and refining your listening skills. No 2 demos are alike. If you want to take your conversational skills to a motivtional, casual transformation level, Masters Level 2 awaits!
Q: Are replays available if I can’t attend live?
A: Yes. Replays of all trainings are in a program portal.
Q: I'm a veteran. Is this training for me?
A: Absolutely. Again, you should be certified in hypnosis, nlp or educated as a mental health professional. Many veterans are drawn to this work, and you’ll be supported every step.
Q: How much time do I need to commit to this training?
A: The past trainings are at your own pace. The live trainings are three 6-7 hour days on zoom. Once you've started to go through the portal, or completed the live training, the more time you dedicate to practice, the faster you'll master conversational hypnosis.
Q: What if I’m nervous to practice or more introverted?
A: Everyone is nervous at first—it’s completely normal. But this isn’t the kind of practice where you’re left guessing Practice demos are observed by me and never ask you to explore emotional trauma. Many of our students have come in with past emotional wounds, and they’ve excelled in this safe space. You’ll build confidence through repetition and curiosity.
A: No, but we only train certified hypnotists, NLP practitioners and licensed mentalhealth professionals in Elite Hypno Masters. Professional hypnotists work with everyday people on everyday challenges, including:
✔ Stress & anxiety management
✔ Smoking cessation & weight loss
✔ Confidence, motivation, & mindset blocks
✔ Fears, nervous habits, & sleep improvement
✔ Emotional release of anger, shame and guilt
With a professional referral, you can also work with clients dealing with diagnosed conditions such as:
✔ Chronic pain & headaches
✔ PTSD & anxiety disorders
✔ Vaginismus & gut health issues
Since stress impacts nearly every physical condition, even focusing solely on relaxation and stress reduction can significantly improve a client’s quality of life.
Q: How do I know this will actually work for me?
A: If you know how to talk to someone and listen with presence, this will work for you. This full immersion class will allow you to learn through experience. As with anything, practice fine tunes what your learn. We encourage practice sessions with other students who are in the Facebook group on light, simple issues.
Q: What's the difference between your certification and conversational hypnosis.?
A: The Elite Hypno Pro™ training program provides National Guild of Hypnotist and 5-PATH certification along with The Identity Matrix method certification which is my proprietary process for creating powerful individualized transformation without spending months doing hundreds of free sessions and studying endless hours.
Q: Can I take Elite Hypnos Masters Level 1 if I am a certified coach?
A: In EHM Level 1 there is NO classroom lessons, manuals, or guides. It is full immersion. It is expected that all students have hypnosis, NLP or mental health training. All students assume the risk of the clients they choose to take on and understanding their scope of practice.
Q: Will I need more training after this course?
A: You’ll be well on your way to helping clients untangle the 'knots' of belief that keep them stuck when you finish level 1. Your results will depend on how much time you dedicate to practice, using your VIP ticket and refining your listening skills. No 2 demos are alike. If you want to take your conversational skills to a motivtional, casual transformation level, Masters Level 2 awaits!
Q: Are replays available if I can’t attend live?
A: Yes. Replays of all trainings are in a program portal.
Q: I'm a veteran. Is this training for me?
A: Absolutely. Again, you should be certified in hypnosis, nlp or educated as a mental health professional. Many veterans are drawn to this work, and you’ll be supported every step.
Q: How much time do I need to commit to this training?
A: The past trainings are at your own pace. The live trainings are three 6-7 hour days on zoom. Once you've started to go through the portal, or completed the live training, the more time you dedicate to practice, the faster you'll master conversational hypnosis.
Q: What if I’m nervous to practice or more introverted?
A: Everyone is nervous at first—it’s completely normal. But this isn’t the kind of practice where you’re left guessing Practice demos are observed by me and never ask you to explore emotional trauma. Many of our students have come in with past emotional wounds, and they’ve excelled in this safe space. You’ll build confidence through repetition and curiosity.
More Frequently Asked Questions
More Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How much can I charge using conversational hypnosis?
A: When I began using conversational hypnosis I switched to a 'pay for transformation' model. I recommend starting at $1000 for a transformation. This gives you the freedom to not be pressured by how many sessions it takes to achieve a result. As you dial in who your best clients are, AND you are not working with complex issues in a client who has past traumas you can get results in as little as 1-3 sessions.
Q: I've heard conversational hypnosis is unethical.
A: Conversational hypnosis should not be confused with what many refer to as 'covert' hypnosis. There are trainers who have built their businesses on 'covertly' manipulating people. This is the reason we only allow certified hypnotists, NLP practitioners and mental health professionals in this training. When using conversational hypnosis your client should know you are using conversational hypnosis because you should be using informed consent as required by malpractice/liability policies.
Q: Do I have to be live 100% of the time?
A: No. Replays will be available. However, you will get the most benefit by being live as the principles are broken down bit by bit each day to make sure everyone understands.
A: When I began using conversational hypnosis I switched to a 'pay for transformation' model. I recommend starting at $1000 for a transformation. This gives you the freedom to not be pressured by how many sessions it takes to achieve a result. As you dial in who your best clients are, AND you are not working with complex issues in a client who has past traumas you can get results in as little as 1-3 sessions.
Q: I've heard conversational hypnosis is unethical.
A: Conversational hypnosis should not be confused with what many refer to as 'covert' hypnosis. There are trainers who have built their businesses on 'covertly' manipulating people. This is the reason we only allow certified hypnotists, NLP practitioners and mental health professionals in this training. When using conversational hypnosis your client should know you are using conversational hypnosis because you should be using informed consent as required by malpractice/liability policies.
Q: Do I have to be live 100% of the time?
A: No. Replays will be available. However, you will get the most benefit by being live as the principles are broken down bit by bit each day to make sure everyone understands.
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